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Friday, December 07, 2012

The need for "sexism" in literature

In which I address a common complaint concerning female roles in fantasy literature at Alpha Game:
The problem with what Wohl advocates is that by putting modern views on sexual roles and intersexual relations into the minds, mouths, and worse, structures of an imaginary historical society, it destroys the very structural foundations that make the society historical and the dramatic storylines credible - in some cases, even possible.  It's problem similar to the one faced by secular writers, who wish to simultaneously eliminate religion from their fictional medieval societies, and yet retain the dramatic conflict created by the divine right of kings.  However, it is more severe because the sexual aspect touches upon the most concrete basis of every society: its ability to sustain itself through the propagation of its members.

The "sexism" of which Wohl and many of his commenters complain isn't cultural, it is simply the logical consequences of biological and martial imperatives.

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58 Comments:

Anonymous Mr Green Man December 07, 2012 7:31 AM  

You're missing the key ingredient: The fantasy world needs to also have PowerPoint. Once you get the suspension of disbelief on that point, it all works out.

Anonymous Tadlike December 07, 2012 7:32 AM  

RACISS!!

Anonymous Taddeus Tedium December 07, 2012 8:10 AM  

I don't see the problem. All the society has to do is allow massive waves of immigration to replenish the stock.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo December 07, 2012 8:11 AM  

More thought control from our feminist masters, I see.

Now, we're not allowed to write about historically accurate societies if they don't rail against the inequality of women or show women to be interchangeable with men.

I say ignore them.

Blogger Michael December 07, 2012 8:28 AM  

One might think that this would all be RATHER OBVIOUS to anyone with a functioning brain.

OpenID herenvardo December 07, 2012 8:48 AM  

A bit of an OCD nag... medieval Europe didn't quite have a 'divine right of kings' - kings like King John could be pushed out by the church, if the local cardinals or the Pope played their cards right. It was only after the churches became national institutions (in Tudor England or Bourbon France) that the kings started to think they were above the law. The Sun King managed to pull it off; Charles I didn't.

Anonymous DT December 07, 2012 9:06 AM  

'Divine right of kings'...is that sort of like the 'election mandate' that progressives are always harping about?

Oh yeah...SEXCISS!

Blogger JD Curtis December 07, 2012 9:07 AM  

It's problem similar to the one faced by secular writers, who wish to simultaneously eliminate religion from their fictional medieval societies


I was reminded of something similar (I think) last night while listening to a gentleman belt out the lyrics of the Battle Hymn of the Republic on Karaoke Night.


How long will it be before the lyrics of that song are whitewashed from history? I could actually see a lawsuit if a teacher had their students have a sing=along for that song as part of a history lesson.

Anonymous Kane December 07, 2012 9:11 AM  

Worst offenders?

My vote: Matthew Woodring Stover.

http://www.whatthefun.net/stover/

His "Caine" novels read like a 16-year-old's D&D transcript.

But you know Stover just feels so hip because his 19-level fighter-monk talks like Quentin Tarantino....

"I know, I'll write a fantasy book ...put it in a medieval setting ...but everyone will talk like Goodfellas ... yeah, that's the ticket..."

Anonymous VD December 07, 2012 9:49 AM  

My vote: Matthew Woodring Stover.

I checked out his book list and laughed at the first description. "An axe-wielding warrior woman from the North!" I'm guessing he hasn't chopped much wood in his life. After two or three swings, the average warrior woman wouldn't be able to lift her axehead higher than her knees.

Blogger Brad Andrews December 07, 2012 10:08 AM  

I find it humorous that some bloggers substitute "she" for "he". I would suppose that is for the same trend to fight against the oppression. A bit tangential, but a similar point.

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2012 10:15 AM  

Who could have known that the day would come that such basic observations as this would be so insightful and funny? We live in a culture that severely distorts the reality around us.

Anonymous Heh December 07, 2012 10:20 AM  

"All the society has to do is allow massive waves of immigration to replenish the stock."

This is the secret origin of the Orcs -- the Elves created them in order to do the Jobs That Elves Just Won't Do and also because Elvish women were too busy with their important educations and careers to bother with breeding.

Anonymous Daniel December 07, 2012 10:24 AM  

Oh, I don't know - I think there is a place for lightweight silly fantasy like "A Knight's Tale," "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" and "Red Sonja."

It's called the comedy section. There's a reason why Xena: Warrior Princess is funny - because, like putting Mr. Bean in a swimming pool, attractive lesbians who can murder trolls with hand fighting are incongruous.

It doesn't work as well in books, though, but that's mostly because Douglas Adams never interested himself in Warrior Women jokes.

Anonymous Stilicho December 07, 2012 10:48 AM  

Couldn't agree more on Brienne of Tarth. Laughable at best. If one really wants to see one of Martin's female characters assume an "equal" position to the men (and let's not forget how much of a political lefty Martin is) just look at John Arryn's widow (psycopath trying to act like she thinks men act), the Sand Snakes (conniving, vicious sluts), or Cersei (both). One of the most interesting female characters is Arya who, while learning to function in a male dominated world as an assassin, is at least learning to do it with subterfuge, misdirection, etc. to compensate for lack of physical prowess for the most part. Westeros reflects quite a bit of reality even if unintentionally.

Blogger JohnG December 07, 2012 11:18 AM  

On a realistic note - A couple female Marines tried infantry basic... and it didn't go so well!. This is good too.!

I think it's all just the adolescent male fantasies about hot chicks in chainmail sports bras and plate thongs. I blame the movie Conan. I think if anybody had seen women moving around in combat (OIF, OEF) on the ground with a full load and body armor, they'd get it. Alot of these females that push for getting into combat arms are the Martha McSally types (fighter pilot) or females in the MPs who rode in a turret sitting behind a machine gun and got to pull the trigger...not the same as humping it and getting into a real fight and hand to hand.

Anonymous carnaby December 07, 2012 11:20 AM  

The reboot of Battlestar Galactica had some pretty strong female characters and intersexual tension. But then they had modern gizmos that enabled some of the tougher females to be on equal footing. Not so much in human history. That, and some of them were robots.

Anonymous Mike43 December 07, 2012 11:37 AM  

There's a sub-genre in ebooks that directly and unashamedly addresses this call re-gendering.

I read one, once "Jane Carter of Mars" a supposed Airborne Ranger tragically moved to Mars. (Leaving aside the fact that there are no women Rangers.) But hey; go forward or something.

Actually, given the imputed characteristics of the original novel, at least it wasn't totally impractical (Due to low gravity, earthmen having better strength and leaping.)

Since I didn't pay for it, and it was a fast read, I didn't hate it. But I didn't save it to re-read either.

Anonymous Stickwick December 07, 2012 11:56 AM  

The reboot of Battlestar Galactica had some pretty strong female characters and intersexual tension.

I detested the new Starbuck beyond all reason. And the blond "cylon" chick looked like she'd have a tough time fighting her way out of a paper bag.

I don't read much fantasy, but the only butt-kicking female warrior type that ever seemed the least bit plausible to me was Tolkien's Eowyn, and even that was a bit of a stretch. Feminists probably hate her, because: a) she didn't make a career out of butt kicking, but b) instead went to war to die, because the man she was obsessed with was presumably dead, and then c) hung it all up for domestic bliss with Mr. Dreamboat.

Anonymous JI December 07, 2012 12:17 PM  

Yup. This also occurs in modern historical tv and movies outside of the fantasy genre, as well. As an example, I hated the movie Titanic for this reason.

Anonymous Daniel December 07, 2012 12:39 PM  

I've got no problem whatsoever with supernatural enhanced warrior women, especially if they deal with battle like women. Eowyn, while not magically enhanced, certainly had some sort of spiritual component to her otherwise common conscript abilities - she was a) a shieldmaiden and b) the fulfillment of prophecy.

Further, full-blown magically enhanced warrior women are fine by me. But they won't be anything like the non-enchanted real women of the book.

Not a perfect example, but Tanith Lee's Piratica turns this nicely on its head. The misunderstood heroine who believes with all her heart that she is actually a roving, warring sea captain, and tests her prowess in adventures, turns out, in fact, to be delusional and misled by a theater troupe.

Anonymous Daniel December 07, 2012 12:45 PM  

Re: Titanic - When I saw the movie, my favorite part was Ben Guggenheim getting dressed to drink and die like a man, and my greatest heartbreak was realizing that the Coup de Ville in the cargo bay had gotten sucked to the bottom of the ocean.

Blogger Jehu December 07, 2012 12:58 PM  

Just to get to average male strength, a woman needs to be around +3 sigma from the female mean. Even to be stronger than a scrawny geek, a woman has to be seriously exceptional. To be competitive with even the +4 sigma folks that are so numerous in fiction, you need women who would easily gold medal in modern Olympic competition. This degree of authorial affirmative action is disgusting and destroys disbelief in anyone who has ever actually seen the inside of a gym.

Anonymous A Visitor December 07, 2012 1:29 PM  

It reminds me (maybe I saw this from an older post here at VD) of a recent article I read (on second thought, maybe it was Drudge) about the two women volunteers for Marine Infantry. One quit on the first day with a bunch of guys and another a few weeks later. A few of the commenters were former Marines and stated that women simply do not have the physical build to be Marine infantry. Period.

However, when did the Left ever let reality get in the way of its crazy ideas, whether in ink, on the silver screen, or in real life?

Anonymous Tico December 07, 2012 1:36 PM  

I rowed competitively in college, and without fail, every year there were a handful of “beasts” on the womens team who could hang with most of the heavy men.   Since this was observed on a random team at a random state university, I have no trouble finding the idea of the “warrior woman” (especially in fantasy!!!) to be plausible enough to not interfere with my enjoyment of a work.   
 
With that said, I really liked Monza in Abercrombie’s “Best Served Cold”.

Anonymous Kane December 07, 2012 1:42 PM  

Another obnoxious trope I'm seeing now:

Asian martial arts + female = unstoppable killing machine.

You know, because karate-chops are what you want when facing a sword, submachine gun, Apache helicopter, etc.

Matthew Woodring Stover, again, is one of the most blatant offenders. He's got elf chicks who know fantasy kung-fu, which is why they can kill armored knights with a single kick, etc.

Stick a dude (or worse a chick) into a dojo and we're supposed to believe their two "Fists of Fury" will defeat entire armies of heavily armed professional soldiers.

Anonymous VD December 07, 2012 1:51 PM  

I rowed competitively in college, and without fail, every year there were a handful of “beasts” on the womens team who could hang with most of the heavy men. Since this was observed on a random team at a random state university, I have no trouble finding the idea of the “warrior woman” (especially in fantasy!!!) to be plausible enough to not interfere with my enjoyment of a work.

That's because it's an endurance sport and involves more technique than raw strength. If you'd ever boxed with any of those heavy women, it would have astounded you how slow they were. The warrior woman is simply not physically plausible in any way, shape or form.

Blogger Duke of Earl December 07, 2012 1:57 PM  

I'll take a suit of plate armour and a five foot double hand sword over a karate chop any day.

Punch me while I'm swinging this thing, I dare you.

Of course knights and soldiers trained in unarmed combat too and from what we know of them western martial arts were as effective as the eastern, and generally optimized for dealing with opponents wearing steel armour.

Anonymous TheVillageIdiotRet December 07, 2012 2:21 PM  

British Englishmen,Canadian Englishmen,Australian Englishmen:
"Divine Rights of Kings"
American Englishmen:
"All Men Are Created Equal"

DannyR

Blogger papabear December 07, 2012 2:23 PM  

"I find it humorous that some bloggers substitute "she" for "he". I would suppose that is for the same trend to fight against the oppression. A bit tangential, but a similar point."

Just today I read on Facebook a tribute from Benchamde knives to the men and women who fought and died at Pearl Harbor.

Blogger papabear December 07, 2012 2:23 PM  

Benchmade, that is.

Anonymous Jack Amok December 07, 2012 2:26 PM  

Couldn't agree more on Brienne of Tarth. Laughable at best.

Using the history of the modern Olympics for inspiration, I'd imagine that if there was a fantasy world Warrior Woman capable of holding her own in a sort of average way with the men, it would eventually turn out that she was either:

a) a man disquised as a (likely not very good looking) woman.

b) some manner of hermaphrodite who had extra testosterone generating organs somewhere

c) taking some sort of alchemist's potion that was the fantasy equivalent of steroid injections.

I don't think any of these Warrior Women would be dominating in the arena though. At best they'd be average.

Anonymous Daniel December 07, 2012 2:40 PM  

Tico, I'm fine if the author wants me to believe that a young heavy girl can win a rowing contest in a book.

Can you tell me how many of the heavyweights from the women's wrestling team could pin the junior varsity men?

I've known a lot of high-end athletes. A heroine who can swim for longer, shoot close targets more accurately (w/ bow and small chest), row as well, skate better, or anything like that is perfectly fine. That's why I don't mind the assassinesses who use guile, deception and technique, or the non-magical couriers who get the message through against the odds, or the princesses who are capable of eluding capture or conflict, or, when necessary, fighting back from a distance.

But a non-magical, otherwise normal "woman" who can fight the best men, or even the average? Forget it. The thing you forget about fantasy is that orcs, dwarves, elves, trolls, etc. are supernatural fantasy tropes.

Men with special, non-human abilities demand a fantasy explanation. Warrior Women (the stereotype), have special, non-human abilities without explanation.

It isn't that hard for the author to account for her unique quality if he really wants to employ her: a) give her a magic crystal that grants the power, and never mention it again if you don't want to and b) stop making her think like a dude with ta-tas.

Anonymous Stilicho December 07, 2012 2:41 PM  

Just today I read on Facebook a tribute from Benchamde knives to the men and women who fought and died at Pearl Harbor.

I propose a new drinking game: Jamie takes a drink for every woman who fought and died at Pearl Harbor. After one hour, we measure his BAC. Whoever guesses closest to the actual number, wins.

Anonymous Daniel December 07, 2012 2:54 PM  

Oh yeah, that point can't be made enough: big gals are s-l-o-w. They can not help this. It is both kinesiology and kine-siology. Her skeletal frame (no matter how "large" her bones might be) is far too fair and flexible to wield her considerable bulk and musculature as efficiently as a man.

Juvenal mercilessly lampooned the gladiatrix as weak - rich, elite girls playing at something they couldn't understand - something that the biggest ox of a whore (who would be more equipped to fend for herself) would do.

He was right. In all of ancient and middle history, I can't think of a single "fighting man" who was a girl (not counting officers and other leaders of combat. I'm talking actual soldiers.

Of course, I can't think of any female combatants who have demonstrated superior fighting skills even in the modern era, with distance infantry weapons.

Anonymous Tico December 07, 2012 3:15 PM  

Vox, no, it’s not probable, but it’s absolutely plausible, because we have historical examples* of warrior women (not to mention myth & legend).
 
Also, I should have been clearer, I was talking about the “landwork” not the actual rowing in a boat.  Weight circuits, erg tests (endurance, NO technique) and “jungle runs” and we had also had a heavy bag.   These “beasts” were outliers no doubt (and perhaps over represented because of the draw of the sport) but outliers do exist.   
 
And this is why I also have to disagree with an early comment on Brienne of Tarth, I find her not only believable, but compelling, especially in the TV show (I don’t recall if she’s a giant in the book, just that she’s homely), she’s most certainly an outlier, a giant ugly outlier.  I have no doubt she’d fall to the Mountain or the Hound in a fair fight, but would bet on her against your average medieval thug with a mace or peasant with a spear any day. 
 
As for karate chops vs. broadswords, of course I would go with broadswords in general.  I would also go with two legion of Sardauker vs. dirty indigenes, unless of course the dirty indigenes had some sort of… um… “fantasy kung fu”.   It is fantasy after all…  
 
*I’m sure there are revisionist debunkings of the warrior women of history, like there are of most everything...

Anonymous Aethelfrith December 07, 2012 3:51 PM  

Guys, this is why Sci Fi is more suited for feminism than fantasy. With sci fi the world is usually a projection of the writer's fantasies regarding society and politics (But Better!)

Take Mass Effect for example. The dominant (and my least favorite) species in the galaxy are the asari. The are all-female (feminism), favor interspecies mating (and yet are shielded from the effects of their mate choices since all asari+mixed pairings result in asari) and some of the in-game fluff mentions that an asari historian discovered that "democracies don't declare war on each other." In real life, that is complete bullshit (see: Iran, Latin America).

One thing that broke my willing suspension of disbelief for ME (besides the incredibly bad writing of the sequels) is the fact that Male and Female Shepards are exactly the same, minus romance choices. The retrograde in me does not find it plausible that some short woman with a lesbianish haircut would have the gravitas to lead disparate races in a war against the Reapers. Fortunately, in 3, you have the opportunity to let reality kick FemShep's ass by having fisticuffs with James and missing all the interrupts so she gets her ass kicked.

Anonymous VD December 07, 2012 3:56 PM  

I have no doubt she’d fall to the Mountain or the Hound in a fair fight, but would bet on her against your average medieval thug with a mace or peasant with a spear any day.

A peasant with a spear? Sure. Especially if she's in armor. But not several of them. You can't overestimate how important speed is in close combat; even big guys tend to be pretty slow. I used to kick them in the body at will; I can't even imagine how easy it would have been to slice them up with a spear or sword.

Anonymous Tico December 07, 2012 4:00 PM  

But not several of them.

And that is her downfall if I recall.

Anonymous A Visitor December 07, 2012 4:57 PM  

@Aethelfrtih lol...seeing FemShep get her ass handed to her, that'd be something. I always beat the shit outta Vega.

I remember an interview with the game's writers after 2 had just been released and there was speculation about 3. Yeah, they're Lefties. Who can say they're surprised by that?

Anonymous Daniel December 07, 2012 5:04 PM  

A big drawback for big guys in Kendo is there are no weight classes. They have to fight little guys, and will lose almost every time. The Yang Brothers are "big" champs by kendo standards, and I bet neither one of them is more than 160.

Big men need to have an equalizing advantage such as a longer sword, or an ability to keep smaller opponents at bay. Once you are in, its stilletto time, no more difficult than gutting a pig on the rack.

Big women? Twice, maybe three times, as slow. Small women, ten times as easy to break.

Speed is such a difference maker. Once you hit the plateau and the other guy has a higher plateau, it almost never finishes in your favor. Once it does, my suggestion is to declare victory and never fight that guy again.

Blogger Kentucky Packrat December 07, 2012 5:14 PM  

I like the TV show Castle: "Kate" sometime tries to take on the bad guy with fisticuffs, and usually gets her a** handed back to her on a silver platter.

The first war where there were serious numbers of women hiding out as men was the Civil War. Why? Civil War equipment weighed 35-55 pounds or so, well within limits of all of the slightest women. The Army was already dealing with twiggy teenage boys, so a woman who couldn't pack a lot wouldn't be much different. And rifle loading and firing was slow and plodding work, so reflexes were hardly a limit. It was the perfect war for women infantry, and we STILL only have records of about 400 or so women pulling it off.

The modern army is making a laughing-stock of the concept that women can do infantry roles. Equipment is approaching 100 pounds, not 40, and tours off supply lines are months or years, not days. The article linked above pointed out that female "near-infantry" specialists (like older men) are suffering from the physical effects of long-term combat roles at much higher rates than young men. This shouldn't be that much of a surprise; the only people more integrated than America are parts of Europe and Israel, and even Israel's longest "full-equipment" deployments measure days, not months.

Anonymous Daniel December 07, 2012 6:16 PM  

And that's modern infantry - making the historical fantasy of pseudo-ancient or pseudo-medieval warrior princess even more preposterous.

Hidden archer? Okay. Open swordswoman? Akin to the dervish in Raiders of the Lost Ark when, after a dazzling display of handdancing, the artiste is gunned down by Indy.

Anonymous Godfrey December 07, 2012 7:54 PM  

I alwasy snicker when I see the near nude "Victoria Secret Model" female taking on dozens of Orcs. It's even more funny than the little Kung-Fu master taking out dozens of larger enemies with 12 foot flying kicks.

Blogger James Dixon December 07, 2012 8:02 PM  

> Just today I read on Facebook a tribute from Benchamde knives to the men and women who fought and died at Pearl Harbor.

Now, guys. Be fair. No, women did not fight at Pearl Harbor (though some did serve in the traditional women's roles). But it's almost certain that some women were killed. The military weren't the only ones who suffered casualties at Pearl Harbor. The only reasonably trustworthy looking site I could find with a quick search was this one:

http://www.pearlharbor.org/history/casualties/pearl-harbor-casualties/?do_filter=1&location_type=&id_location=&service_civilian=&rank=&home=&search=&details=1

And it does list some civilian women and female children.

Anonymous scoobius dubious December 07, 2012 8:17 PM  

I can't remember exactly, but I think it was the movie version of "Red Sonja" that had the most brilliant generic fantasy line I ever heard in my life...

"You're mad! The talisman will destroy you!"

Just for that alone, I say: bring on as many warrior chicks in skimpy, strangely revealing battle-armor as possible.

Anonymous Anonymous December 07, 2012 8:38 PM  

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Anonymous Anonymous December 07, 2012 8:45 PM  

I think the woman-warrior types should have to train with men for at least 5 classes in the contact martial art of their choice. I have held the square padded target and been spun almost completely around by a man hitting me. Now imagine that same guy, not as my gentlemanly classmate, but as an enemy full of adrenaline who wants to kill me.

And what's wrong with realistic woman warriors? Give me a naginata and I can swing it hard enough to slice a guy's head off before he ever gets close enough to spin me around. But no. They always have swords and knives and manly strength, they are always poor imitations of men.

Blogger papabear December 07, 2012 9:39 PM  

"Now, guys. Be fair. No, women did not fight at Pearl Harbor (though some did serve in the traditional women's roles). But it's almost certain that some women were killed. The military weren't the only ones who suffered casualties at Pearl Harbor. The only reasonably trustworthy looking site I could find with a quick search was this one:"

Unfortunately both verbs are predicated of the subject men and women. If they had just written "those who were killed," my reaction would have been quite different.

Anonymous physphilmusic December 07, 2012 9:41 PM  

You can't overestimate how important speed is in close combat; even big guys tend to be pretty slow.

Does this mean that the existence of weight classes in boxing, MMA and other fighting sports is not only to "protect" the very light and small fighters, but also the heaviest (and therefore slowest) fighters? Is there some kind of optimum weight which balances both speed and strength? How much would it be?

This is interesting because I've always assumed that an average bigger and heavier guy would always rape a top-class middleweight guy in a free-for-all fight.

Blogger Duke of Earl December 07, 2012 10:03 PM  

I think Vox told the story of his Sensei with a new student who was disproportionately long in the arms. The first time they fought the student actually managed to land a punch. The teacher told him to stand still, measured him up with his eyes, and then continued. The guy didn't land a blow after that.

Full contact sports aren't really my thing, but I sometimes regret not having a bunch of good stories from my youth to tell as Vox does.

Anonymous CrisisEraDynamo December 07, 2012 11:03 PM  

Now, Vox Day and the rest of you, what of the Dahomey Amazons of western Africa? They certainly seemed real enough.

Anonymous Aethelfrith December 08, 2012 12:58 AM  

@A Visitor:

Of course BioWare is full of lefties. They're a Canadian company.

Anonymous Jim C. December 08, 2012 7:21 AM  

@ChrisisEraDynamo
(Note: I'm copy-pasting the answer I gave at Alpha Game.)

What about them? They were girls playing soldier, with about as much success as you'd expect them to have (i.e. not much).

Take that Wikipedia article with a truckload of salt. Note the suspicious lack of citations in the text; particularly for the bolder claims.

In fact, the only citation given is the book 'Amazons of Black Sparta' by Stanley Alpern. A while back I actually checked it out. If the title wasn't a dead give-away, the author clearly has a Gamma hard-on for the warrior woman myth. When not making shit up wholesale, he spends considerable effort trying to reframe the scant little evidence that exists, and desperately trying to reinterpret the handful of witness accounts, to build an image of a deadly force of women soldiers.

He fails.

Blogger James Dixon December 08, 2012 11:09 AM  

> I've always assumed that an average bigger and heavier guy would always rape a top-class middleweight guy in a free-for-all fight.

Unarmed combat? If he can close with the smaller opponent and grapple, probably. If the smaller opponent can prevent that in some way, all bets are off. Size does affect speed, but from what I've seen it's a rather complex relationship.

With weapons, it's a completely different matter. But Vox and some others here can give more qualified opinions than I can. I've had very little martial arts training and no training with weapons (save guns, of course).

Anonymous Anonymous December 08, 2012 11:40 AM  

There is some new sci-fi without female warriors or strong independent women in general, you just have to search for it.

For instance,check this: http://www.lulu.com/shop/sanne-wijker/the-long-way-home/paperback/product-20302769.html

You can read preview online.

Blogger Duke of Earl December 08, 2012 3:59 PM  

CrisisEraDynamo, even if they were all they were cracked up to be, you don't get a prize for beating the French.

It's so easy to do that the average German officer probably has it on his checklist.

Wake up
Exercise
Conquer France
Have breakfast

Anonymous Anonymous February 03, 2013 3:55 PM  

Can't believe some of these posts- saying women are inferior to men. Considering that humankind is 99.9% the same DNA wise worldwide according to a national geographic article, there is little evidence to say women cannot be equal 're physical strength and skill. That 0.1% makes little, almost no difference, in the long run. It's as if saying someone 0.1 inches shorter out of 100 inches (impossible, but an example) is completely useless (to the point of 100% losing) compared to a person merely 0.1 inches taller - no one would say this made sense.

Though I'm not much of a fiction-reader, choosing to be a realist, this Should apply in fiction as well, which seems to be lightly attempted at (though the portrayals currently are sexist as well - pretending 'kung foo' is the only method women can be good at - while men wear heavy armor and machinery) or if they do wear heavy armor and machinery as the men, they must not be women/ abnormal; or they are inferior at it and must be saved by a man (usually the protagonist). Though it's nice to see women in sci fiction fighting/action and not doing nothing, it is still an unequal/unrealistic (99.9 same DNA worldwide, no matter region, etc.) portrayal in the 3 ways mentioned

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