Friday, March 16, 2012

Of infidelity

The results of the Alpha Game survey on sexual fidelity. Here are three of the key observations:

1. 31% of women and 28% of men admit to cheating in their premarital relationships.

2. The risk of female sexual infidelity rises considerably with increased sexual experience.

3. The risk of both male and female sexual infidelity rises considerably with male sexual experience.

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20 Comments:

Anonymous duckman March 16, 2012 10:28 AM  

So, guys need to have experience to attract mates, but having that prior experience can lead to you, your spouse, or both of you cheating during your marriage.

Life. It beats the alternative. Sort of.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 16, 2012 10:51 AM  

Shouldn't it read "On infidelity" instead of "Of"?

This makes sense. Sexual virginity by both partners would increase monogamy and the fidelity to marriage vows. Sexual license would breed adventure and excitement thus increasing temptation to commit adultery.

It is the wisdom of Christian morality that human beings are made to be monogamous, that leads to stability and that partners are virgins.

Furthermore, a woman when breaking her virginity becomes very connected to the man that does it. There is a connection that occurs during sex. Two people become one. It is very necessary that people are virgins.

Anonymous VD March 16, 2012 11:13 AM  

It is very necessary that people are virgins.

I take it all that pederasty so necessary to the training of the youth doesn't count, Spartan?

Blogger JohnG March 16, 2012 11:34 AM  

I think it has more to do with hormones and age. Up through my 20's I was very much into the conquest and marriage didn't diminish the urge to chase women at all. At 40, I weigh the consequences and know that there really isn't a golden p*$$. My dad always said "don't get married till you're 30" and I think was probably good advise - or at least it would have been for me.

Anonymous raggededge March 16, 2012 11:39 AM  

My dad always said "don't get married till you're 30" and I think was probably good advise - or at least it would have been for me.

I disagree with this, I think the younger you get married, the more likely that you stay together for the long haul. Building your lives together is a very powerful thing. In marriages that start later in life, the guy has his life and the girl has hers, that's not a recipe for success.

Anonymous Starbuck March 16, 2012 11:40 AM  

Shouldn't it read "On infidelity" instead of "Of"?

This makes sense. Sexual virginity by both partners would increase monogamy and the fidelity to marriage vows. Sexual license would breed adventure and excitement thus increasing temptation to commit adultery.

It is the wisdom of Christian morality that human beings are made to be monogamous, that leads to stability and that partners are virgins.

Furthermore, a woman when breaking her virginity becomes very connected to the man that does it. There is a connection that occurs during sex. Two people become one. It is very necessary that people are virgins.



WLW, I certianly agree with you. There is a really good reason God wanted us to be with one wife or one husband. It is very important not to be a fornicator.

Blogger Giraffe March 16, 2012 12:12 PM  

John G.: At 40, I weigh the consequences and know that there really isn't a golden p*$$

Too bad that is something most have to find out the hard way. The alpha wants to try them all to find it, the gamma already knows who has it, and he wants the precious.

Anonymous Stickwick March 16, 2012 12:28 PM  

I disagree with this, I think the younger you get married, the more likely that you stay together for the long haul.

Apparently not.

Anonymous trashcompactor March 16, 2012 1:59 PM  

This quote by Tennyson has always seemed practical to me...

"Cursed be the social wants that sin against the strength of youth"

The grace of God with the flexibility of youth has always seemed a powerful thing to me. I find my self less prone to change the older I get.

Anonymous BobCat March 16, 2012 2:31 PM  

So are comments written in Anonymous deleted then.

Anonymous jm March 16, 2012 2:59 PM  

That slightly more women than men were unfaithful corresponds pretty closely to what I've observed in my short life.

Anonymous Papapete March 16, 2012 4:53 PM  

I find the incidence of alphas being cheated on to be entirely unsurprising. By definition alphas are not good husbands, and less likely to be faithful to boot. The wife/girlfriend is more likely to be dissatisfied in the relationship and much more likely to be cheated on.

In addition there is a large component of self-selection going on. Women who are in a relationship with an alpha are those who would be attracted to an alpha in the first place, I.e., sexually promiscuous. Just as you are more likely to find a heavy drinker at a bar and a smoker at a hookah shop, an alpha will be more likely to attract a "loose" woman.

Anonymous raggededge March 16, 2012 5:40 PM  

I disagree with this, I think the younger you get married, the more likely that you stay together for the long haul.

Apparently not.


Hard to argue with that. Interesting how males that marry under the age of 20 have a very low divorce rate though.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 16, 2012 8:21 PM  

Far from it. Pedrasty was not allowed in Sparta, q.v. Xenophon.

From Historian Helena P. Schrader:
Sparta's constitution strictly prohibited pederasty. Far from it being institutionalized, as many modern historians claim: contemporary accounts, the evidence of archaeology, and modern psychology all strongly support those ancient historians who vehemently denied pederasty in Sparta.(From Spartan sexuality)

Anonymous Znort March 16, 2012 8:29 PM  

The problem is that in our contemporary culture young adults including those who have been raised in Christian homes are repeatedly told not to get married until they have finished collage, gotten their careers off and running and have gotten their fill of all the fun that there is to be had.

So we have a late teen or early 20s guy or girl who is trying to remain a virgin while waiting years before their eligible for "adult" commitments. All the while their supercharged hormones are making them feel as if they will erupt like Mt. St Helens.

In biblical times the average age for marriage was fourteen or fifteen; just when puberty is setting in. Sounds like that would be a wise tradition to bring back.

Blogger W.LindsayWheeler March 16, 2012 8:29 PM  

Again, here is Historian Helena P. Schrader:

"Finally, let me turn to the most offensive aspect of this common picture: institutionalized pederasty. Without getting into a fight about the dating and nationality of the sources alleging institutionalized pederasty to Spartan society, the status of women in Sparta is even more widely attested and can be considered incontestable. Yet the high status of Sparta’s women is completely inconsistent with a society composed of men who suffered child abuse as children. Aristotle himself fumed against the power of women and attributed it to militaristic society in which homosexual love was not common. More important, modern psychology shows that abused boys grow up to despise women. Whatever else one can accuse the Spartans of doing, despising women was not one of them. Athenians, notably Aristophanes and Hesiod, on the contrary, very clearly did despise women and it was in Athens and Corinth that the archeological evidence likewise suggests widespread pederasty. Sparta stands out as the exception, which is probably why it was so profoundly misunderstood." (From Untold Stories of the Spartan Agoge

She makes some good points.

Anonymous Oregon Mouse March 16, 2012 8:42 PM  

It makes sense that cheating corresponds with a higher number of sexual partners. Lots of sexual experience quickly causes people to become emotionally jaded. Spreading it around cheapens the entire experience.

Anonymous MC March 17, 2012 6:14 AM  

"I disagree with this, I think the younger you get married, the more likely that you stay together for the long haul."

"Apparently not."

"Hard to argue with that. Interesting how males that marry under the age of 20 have a very low divorce rate though."

It isn't THAT hard to argue with. You can't look at the stats for divorce rates by age at first marriage without taking into account that responsible kids are told not to marry until they are "established." In that cultural context, the people least likely to divorce wait until later, and the ones with little regard for doing the "responsible" thing marry early. It's likely if we encouraged responsible young people to marry early, the stat would be flipped on its head.

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